Dave and I go over a very long list of the statues that have been torn down or come down over the past month, the historical figures behind them, and the case for tearing down each statue. From Columbus to Colston, from Jefferson to Roosevelt and many in between, we answer the question – why might people want to tear these statues down?
THE LIST: Columbus Edward Colston Robert Milligan Thomas Picton Robert Clayton Theodore Roosevelt William Jefferson Robert E. Lee Ulysses Grant Winston Churchill Thomas Guy John Cass Edward Codrington Cecil Rhodes Leopold II John Fane Charles Hamilton Raphel Semmes Sam Davis John Castleman Richard Dowling Jefferson Davis Henry Lawson Wyatt John C. Calhoun Stonewall Jackson Williams Carter Wickham Juan de Oniate Junipero Serra Diego de Vargas Edward W. Carmack Thomas Jefferson Frank Rizzo One Riot, One Ranger Avery Brundage Jerry Richardson Philip Schuyler Caesar Rodney Josephus Daniels John Sutter William Clark
Dessalines became Emperor of Haiti in 1804, marking the end of the Haitian Revolution. Napoleon’s crowning as Emperor was the end of the French one. We talk about Napoleon’s wars, compare Napoleon’s exile and imprisonment to Toussaint’s, and talk about the momentous consequences of these revolutions.
I talk to the incomparable Carl Zha of the Silk & Steel podcast about the border clashes between India and China in the Galwan Valley. We talked about the many changes in Indian politics with the rise of fascism over the past decade. In the second hour, we go into details of the McMahon line drawn by the British imperialists in 1914 and the 1962 war.
It took Dessalines to complete the job of winning Haitian Independence, after Napoleon had Toussaint captured and imprisoned to die in France. Napoleon went on to make himself Emperor of France and start what seemed like an interminable series of wars. This takes us to the end of both revolutions.
This phase of the French and Haitian Revolutions was dominated by two very dominating figures: Toussaint L’Ouverture and Napoleon Bonaparte. We talk about their rise and how they surpassed their rivals and would end up facing one another.
The Haitian Revolution started with a well-planned conspiracy led by a slave named Boukman in 1791. The French Revolutionaries scrambled to figure out how to preserve the crown jewel of their colonies while accommodating their newfound principles of liberty, equality, and fraternity. In France, the revolution went from monarchy to Republic to the best-known symbol (sadly) of the revolution, the guillotine. Part 2 of our series on the Haitian and French Revolutions takes us from 1791-1794.
Chinese diplomat Zhou Enlai may or may not have said 200 years later that it’s too early to tell what the consequences of the French Revolution are, but we are dedicating five full episodes to it and doing it right, which means treating the French and Haitian revolutions together. In part 1 we go from the Storming of the Bastille to the Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen and on, getting as far as 1792.